Sat, 24 December 2005  There is Amazing Grace in a Christmas in Shanghai after all! Dreadful Snake Guy goes to a local church on Christmas Eve and although everything is done in Chinese, the messages come through loud and clear. Parables and metaphors and Big Brother in the back watching it all. All audio recorded live tonight at the Mu En Church on Xi Zang Zhong Road (see picture posted at right) . . . except for that Amazing Grace version in the back of some of my ramblings ...that was the Blind Boys of Alabama . Merry Christmas to all you Snakesters out there. Thanks for listening and remember your emails, comments, and votes at Podcast Alley. Comments[13] |
truly graceful, amazing and beautiful, Mr. guy.
for some reason, knowing that a Quaker celebrated christmas seated in a folding chair in a crowded church filled with high emotion, singing, foreign tongue, parables and pageantry made this native Pennsylvanian smile very deeply with my own quiet thoughts... of celebrating christmas, after many years away, in my parents' very crowded house filled with extended family... seated in an old folding wooden chair that my great-grandmother, the Pentecostal preacher, for most of her life used to unfold for overflow guests entering church for celebrations.
a sincere and warm merry christmas to you, guy.
oh, and btw, i really enjoy hearing 'Amazing Grace' to the tune of 'House Of The Rising Sun'... where do you find this stuff??!
for some reason, knowing that a Quaker celebrated christmas seated in a folding chair in a crowded church filled with high emotion, singing, foreign tongue, parables and pageantry made this native Pennsylvanian smile very deeply with my own quiet thoughts... of celebrating christmas, after many years away, in my parents' very crowded house filled with extended family... seated in an old folding wooden chair that my great-grandmother, the Pentecostal preacher, for most of her life used to unfold for overflow guests entering church for celebrations.
a sincere and warm merry christmas to you, guy.
oh, and btw, i really enjoy hearing 'Amazing Grace' to the tune of 'House Of The Rising Sun'... where do you find this stuff??!
posted by: donna on Sun, 12/25 08:31 AM EST
As an avid listener and a Catholic I am really interested in this podcast. If you don't know, the Catholic Church is "banned" except for the "official state sponsored" "catholic" church. The last I heard was that there were 8 million "state sponsored" catholics and 12 million Catholics (in the traditional sense... but illegal in China). There have been many arrests in China for printing "illegal" Bibles, and by that I mean actual Bibles and not the state approved ones.
This obviously poses an enormous problem for me with Chinese religion. I really like the audio and the parable. I think that you have tapped into something really excellent, however I am curious about the actual content of this mass. From what I can tell there is an enormous split in "true" religion and "state sponsored" religion. As a religious studies major I am always curious about these kind of things. The Amazing Grace is absolutely startlingly beautiful even though I cannot see anything. Although, I am incredibly skeptical especially with something like Amazing Grace in a place like China. Amazing Grace is something that is very familial/personal in my family... it has deep relations to my family and their religious freedom.
All that aside... I hope that true and meaningful religion can take root in China without any kind of appeasement to the government. I am struck by my own skepticism because I would never want to denigrate anyone's religion, but in this case I cannot help myself. I am afraid that the parable is not noble but a ploy of the communist government, saying that no group is good enough except the proletariat help. I hope for the best in this case... not to mention that this is an AMAZING insight that is not often seen. Thank you for bringing all of this to us. I am eagerly awaiting more.
This obviously poses an enormous problem for me with Chinese religion. I really like the audio and the parable. I think that you have tapped into something really excellent, however I am curious about the actual content of this mass. From what I can tell there is an enormous split in "true" religion and "state sponsored" religion. As a religious studies major I am always curious about these kind of things. The Amazing Grace is absolutely startlingly beautiful even though I cannot see anything. Although, I am incredibly skeptical especially with something like Amazing Grace in a place like China. Amazing Grace is something that is very familial/personal in my family... it has deep relations to my family and their religious freedom.
All that aside... I hope that true and meaningful religion can take root in China without any kind of appeasement to the government. I am struck by my own skepticism because I would never want to denigrate anyone's religion, but in this case I cannot help myself. I am afraid that the parable is not noble but a ploy of the communist government, saying that no group is good enough except the proletariat help. I hope for the best in this case... not to mention that this is an AMAZING insight that is not often seen. Thank you for bringing all of this to us. I am eagerly awaiting more.
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